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A za glavni motiv je uzeta (ukradena) čuvena grafika "rotating snake". Interesatno je da glavni deo vizuelnih radionica Belefa radi Mirko Ilić, te mi je sa jedne strane logično da on radi i glavni deo priče oko vizuelnih rešenja Belefa samog... a od njega ne bih očekivao da ukrade ovo.
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Ja bih sacekao da saznam celu pricu. Mozda je iskoriscena sa razlogom, a mozda gresim.
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10:31 PM, July 12, 2005
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lik se ochigledno izivljava, pazareci tezge na ime... :/
11:46 PM, July 12, 2005
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12:36 PM, July 13, 2005
opti.... Mislim da je glupo raspravljati se na temu Mirka Ilica. On je definitivno jedan od talentovanijih sa ovih prostora. Naravno ja i dalje tvrdim da on nije najbolji, on je samo imao tu srecu da radi za TIME. Brdo ljudi pre njega je prelamalo text na onaj fazon, brdo ljudi pre njega je radilo gomilu stvari.... ali on je to radio za TIME, tako da mu pripadaju sve zasluge. Na stranu to, ne mozes reci da su mu i ostali radovi losi? skrechbordovi?
Sto se tiche konkretno ovog, meni zapravo nije jasno kako ljudi ranije nisu koristili ove fazone? Pa ovo postoji godinama! Kao i one svetlece tacke... bas cudno... doduse ovde je bash leglo, zato sto je potrebna bolesna koncentracija da iskulirash iluziju....
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1:23 PM, July 13, 2005
Draga Gospodo da ste se potrudili procitati ime potpisane agencije koja je dizajnirala identitet BELEFA,a ocito da dizajneri nevole citati, vidjeli bi da ja nemam nikakve veze sa tim. Sto znaci da se ponasate identicno kao vase starije kolege, a mislite da ste bolji od nji, pljujete po drugima bez razloga.
Usput "on je samo imao tu srecu da radi za TIME" to nije bila zasluga srece nego mog rada."Brdo ljudi pre njega je prelamalo text na onaj fazon," ja sam to radio za New York Times novinu, ne za Time magazin. Velika razlika, kao sto rekoh treba citati Gospodo.
Mislim da mi svi skupa dugujete pismenu ispricnicu na istom mjestu gdje ste objavili vasa pljuvanja.
4:20 PM, July 13, 2005
Moje ime je Anica Tucakov i selektor sam vizuelnog programa BELEF-a.
Mirko Ilic ove godine ucestvuje na BELEF-u u okviru projekta NA VREME! koji realizujemo u saradnji sa nedeljnikom Vreme, a ciji je cilj predstavljanje osam mladih ilustratora i grafickih dizajnera.
Mirko Ilic je supervizor ovog projekta, ali bih zelela da skrenem paznju da nema nikakve veze sa kampanjom BELEF-a.
4:26 PM, July 13, 2005
Pozdrav Mirku i Anici,
Prvo, drago mi je da je Anica razgraničila koja je tačno tvoja uloga na Belefu.
Drugo, želim odmah da kažem da sam kao autor originalne teme naveo sledeće:
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Interesatno je da glavni deo vizuelnih radionica Belefa radi Mirko Ilić, te mi je sa jedne strane logično da on radi i glavni deo priče oko vizuelnih rešenja Belefa samog... a od njega ne bih očekivao da ukrade ovo.
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Iskreno, drago mi je da ti nisi autor vizuelnog rešenja za Belef, jer te ipak poštujem kao jednog od (naj)boljih kreativaca sa ovih prostora... jer da ti jesi autor, to bi mi umnogome pokvarilo sliku o tebi...
Ne brini se... Ovde u zemlji ima mnogo nas koji smo znali za tebe i tvoj rad i posećivali tvoj sajt, mnogo pre ljudi koji te sada prate po Beogradu i uvlače ti se u dupe, jer je fensi poznavati Mirka Ilića...
...drago mi je da se izdefinisalo ko nije uradio... ali bih stvarno voleo da znam ko jeste...
5:45 PM, July 13, 2005
Oho... welcome :)
Mirko, znam da su prelomi bili za New York times lose sam napisao, i znam da nije pitanje sreca vec svi zhivi radovi koje si prosuo pred njima kad si i dobio posao, to je bilo samo figurativno.
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9:23 PM, July 13, 2005
... odgovor iz prve ruke :o)
10:48 PM, July 13, 2005
Mislim da mi svi skupa dugujete pismenu ispricnicu na istom mjestu gdje ste objavili vasa pljuvanja.
jos jedna potvrda da dizajneri ne vole citati!
"svi skupa" ne dugujemo izvinjenje, posto nismo svi pljuvali. Napisao sam da imate ime, a licno smatram da se ime ne stice tek tako lako.
Nemojte da kvarite sliku koju imam o vama.
1:22 PM, July 14, 2005
zaboravih...
Ton kojim ste nam se obratili nije bas prikladan jednom kosmopoliti.
1:25 PM, July 14, 2005
>Klasichan dokaz, mega prepumpanog egoa (ultra >dizajnera) koji se popishava po navodno svojoj >zemlji, jer smatra da to mozhe da uradi zbog >neslaganja sa politikom
>taj skandal sa logotipom niko u drzhavi i javnosti >izgleda nije izvalio, osim nas na DZ
Tko razvalio “skandal s logotipom”? U cemu je skandal? U radu ili autoru?
3:27 PM, July 14, 2005
diskutabilna tema se nalazi ovde tako da, ako stvarno zelite... mada ovo nije blog o logotipima... mogu da napravim izuzetak i napravim novu temu...
Ova tema je Belef... i jos uvek niko nije rekao koja je agencija "uradila" resenje za Belef
3:40 PM, July 14, 2005
Evo i konačnog raspleta...
Na posterima (prvo mesto gde sam video izbliza potpis) stoji potpisana agencija BrandMama koja je prema informacijama koje sam dobio agencija u osnivanju... te je svako vezivanje Mirka Ilića sa temom krađe rešenja za Belef isključeno...
A Mamici... sve kritike... naročito što je agencija u osnivanju...
12:38 AM, July 16, 2005
Pa svaki početak je težak ;)
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5:45 PM, July 16, 2005
Videh pre neki dan na studiu B, gost neke emisije, lik koji je radio kampanju za Belef sa svojom ličnom agencijom (nisam stigao da cujem ime agencije), Boris Marčetić. Mlad lik. Radio i vizuelni identitet Kulturnog Nokauta. Sa velikim oduševljenjem je pričao o kampanji za Belef kao o jako dobro i kvalitetno odrađenom poslu za relativno male pare. Pošto nisam gledao ceo razgovor, ne znam da li je pomenuo izvor "inspiracije".
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Mirko Ilic je jedan od najboljih ex-jugoslovenskih dizajnera koji se dokazao u svijetu. Nadam se da je neko od vas vidjeo njegove naslovne strane za New York Times Book... pa da pricamo dalje o dizajnu i advertajzingu...
Ne vjerujem da bi Mirko Ilic dopustio sebi da nesto, kako neko kaze, ukrade ideju. Covjek je sam pun ideja da bi ukrao neciju ideju.
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